"The Master Sword is reacting to something..it's trying to tell me where the location of the enemy is"
-Zelda: A Link to the Past by Ataru Cagiva, 1996
I've known Mak probably longer than anyone else on the internet since we were both on the first forum/social site I ever joined, Gaming Universe. It was a general gaming forum but he was a Zelda knowledge guru and I was all about the Zelda material scanning. The thing I love about knowing him is that my mind does not remember story details, his does, and I will forever love the incredible but somewhat random discussions that happen when we all get together.
When I was re-scanning the LttP manga I posted this:
HoH: "Spoiler if you haven't read the LttP Cagiva manga then this is that time, all the way in 1995, that Link met the spirit of a Link from the past at the Master Sword who then tested him and eventually taught him how to wield it."
HoH: "From our old translations/scanlations of volume 3: I'm going to be uploading good, new, scans of these 3 volumes starting tomorrow but if you want to read the old scans in English, just start here: historyofhyrule.com/publications/manga_lttp1 "
Mak: "Ocarina of Time (1998) deals with the Imprisoning War and the sealing of Ganon. In the game Ganondorf uses waves of darkness, and Navi cannot help. Link ultimately defeats Ganondorf with Zelda and the Sages. That should lead to A Link to the Past, but the Master Sword was used..."
"Hyrule Historia (2011) explains a timeline split occurs during the battle with Ganondorf, one where Link wins, and one where Link loses with Ganondorf gaining the entire Triforce and sealed by the Sages, leading to ALttP."
Mak: "I brought this up before when you first published the Cagiva manga English translations . Its interesting to see a similar scenario play out with the previous hero in the early manga from 1996."
"Going back to influences, Dragon Ball Z is huge in Japan, everyone has seen it. The time travel aspect with Trunks is similar to Ocarina of Time (and Avengers Endgame). Trunks can only return to his future, he can't change it. The sequel Dragon Ball Super follows the same logic."
"Oh hey there Fi!"
For people who don't know me, these posts about the manga are just for fun because I think it's interesting.
I've known Mak probably longer than anyone else on the internet since we were both on the first forum/social site I ever joined, Gaming Universe. It was a general gaming forum but he was a Zelda knowledge guru and I was all about the Zelda material scanning. The thing I love about knowing him is that my mind does not remember story details, his does, and I will forever love the incredible but somewhat random discussions that happen when we all get together.
When I was re-scanning the LttP manga I posted this:
HoH: "Spoiler if you haven't read the LttP Cagiva manga then this is that time, all the way in 1995, that Link met the spirit of a Link from the past at the Master Sword who then tested him and eventually taught him how to wield it."
HoH: "From our old translations/scanlations of volume 3: I'm going to be uploading good, new, scans of these 3 volumes starting tomorrow but if you want to read the old scans in English, just start here: historyofhyrule.com/publications/manga_lttp1 "
HoH: "If you don't get my wistful reference *cough*"
And Mak dropped in and pointed out: "In ALttP's backstory, no one was around to wield the Master Sword, so Ganon was sealed away. In the game's boss fight, Ganon has a secret technique of darkness. In the manga (1996) Ganon also used the technique of darkness and the hero from the Imprisoning War 600 years ago lost."
The Ancient Hero, the Hero's Spirit, Hero's Shade from Twilight Princess, teaches his descendent
And Mak dropped in and pointed out: "In ALttP's backstory, no one was around to wield the Master Sword, so Ganon was sealed away. In the game's boss fight, Ganon has a secret technique of darkness. In the manga (1996) Ganon also used the technique of darkness and the hero from the Imprisoning War 600 years ago lost."
Mak: "Ganon is suppose to be sealed with the whole Triforce for ALttP to occur but only has Power in the game's ending. Its mentioned early Ganon has to take it from Link and Zelda since it split."
"Hyrule Historia (2011) explains a timeline split occurs during the battle with Ganondorf, one where Link wins, and one where Link loses with Ganondorf gaining the entire Triforce and sealed by the Sages, leading to ALttP."
"Going back to influences, Dragon Ball Z is huge in Japan, everyone has seen it. The time travel aspect with Trunks is similar to Ocarina of Time (and Avengers Endgame). Trunks can only return to his future, he can't change it. The sequel Dragon Ball Super follows the same logic."
HoH: "This is really random but didn't one of the earlier artists for Zelda also come from a Dragon Ball background? I could be remembering wrong but if not: I wonder if they did what people do and still went to lunch with their old colleagues and discussed work and stuff."
Mak: "Toei produced the Dragon Ball anime and supposedly the cell art for Zelda 1."
Mak: "The ancestor in the manga is basically an early Hero of Time."
